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Isn't it incredible. Some people already feel abstinence effects since there are no Medison news.

Some people aimlessly post that "there are no news", some people think they are cats, dogs, or some other animals. And we have plenty and plenty of conspiracy theories.

Tommy, what has a man done?

Waiting on some updates here from Medison. I guess...

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Waiting on some updates here from Medison. I guess there isnt much to tell if he cut of communication with everyone.

well if what you heard is correct (2CO started cha...

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well if what you heard is correct (2CO started charging the earliest buyers), then this scheme would work.

Indeed rebates profit from the people who forget to get their rebate, or don't follow the procedure accurate to the dot.

I've heard of several that claim they got charged ...

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I've heard of several that claim they got charged the US$150 by 2CO.
Anybody actually know the fact? I also would like to ask why 2CO don't comment on the unrealistic quantity of orders Valdi has announced days ago. They should know the exact number.

I wonder if a company like 2CO can legally make money out of scams...for example, could there be some scenario where, let's say, 5% of people exposed to scam don't react and 2CO can keep the money?
It's a bit like when you buy something and the price is low only when you mail in some coupons to get part of the money back. Obviously some percentage of people don't do that.

I agree Tommy you are doing a great job. The whole...

2007-08-21T20:59:00.000+02:00

I agree Tommy you are doing a great job. The whole deal sounded interesting even though I don't need a laptop computer (I have two - one very old, one brand new). But it was interesting to follow and I still would like to see how the whole thing plays out.

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I do believe in Medison, holy master, and believe those that believe shell receive a holy bone, let the Lord have mercy on you, anonymous.

Those believeth, receiveth, so says the holy dog bible psalm 21, verse 49. Those who do not trust Valdi, our Lord, shall be punished for eternity in dog hell and never findeth their holy bone they hid in the backyard.

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2007-08-21T14:48:00.000+02:00

Ronald, 2CO don't care if Medison is real or not. Don't understimate their cognitive abilities: even dogs know already that Medison Celebrity isn't real.

For them it's free publicity "look at us protect both the buyers, and stick to the sellers".

But it went too far.

If the ''Medison Celebrity $150 Laptop' is indeed...

2007-08-21T13:41:00.000+02:00

If the ''Medison Celebrity $150 Laptop' is indeed a delusion by a disturbed mind, than I suppose 2CO has been fooled, juts like many others have been.

There is no reason to believe that 2CO will have unjustified gains from this and there is no reason to expect anyone will loose money while dealing with 2CO. But apparently also at 2CO they have not yet figured out whether Medison is real or not.

See this forum at 2CO.

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2007-08-21T12:54:00.000+02:00

FOR GODS SAKE! CO2 HAS NOT CHARGED ANYONE. THEY HAVENT GOT JACK SHIT FROM THE CUSTOMERS.

Off topicWho is that candidate for polish senate??...

2007-08-21T12:19:00.000+02:00

Off topic
Who is that candidate for polish senate??

2CO definitely are into something they're not tell...

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2CO definitely are into something they're not telling the public.

No sane company would keep this running for so long, at their own expense.

I personally am slightly scared to do business with them (as a seller) now.

Forget about Valdi...I'm starting to feel plain so...

2007-08-21T12:05:00.000+02:00

Forget about Valdi...I'm starting to feel plain sorry about this guy's insanity.

It's time to talk about 2CO.

Normal humans can see how screwed up this thing is and there is just NO WAY 2CO can not see this as well.

BUT 2CO FUCKING KEEPS TAKING ORDERS DAY AFTER DAY WELL BEING AWARE THIS IS A BOGUS DEAL.

DO THEY EXPECT SOME PERCENT OF CUSTOMERS WONT COMPLAIN AND THEY CAN KEEP THE MONEY?

DO THEY MAKE MONEY OUT OF THE INTEREST???

WHERE IS THAT AUDIT OF MEDISON AND THEIR BRAZILIAN FACTORY THEY APPARENTLY PROMISED?

I HOPE IRS WILL TAKE AN EXTREMELY CAREFUL LOOK INTO 2CO'S CASH FLOW OF THIS YEAR. IF ANYTHING, 2CO SHOULD LOSE MONEY FROM BEING PART OF THIS.

I personally know a person who is always organizin...

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I personally know a person who is always organizing big international phantom-conferences and other international phantom-events with big important politicians. He always finds people who think they may be real and are willing to support him (at least until they realise there is something odd...). It is amazing to see that he always finds some supporters who -even if doubting themselves- hope that his great ideas might become true. Most of them should know better, but still they try to believe that it is reallity what he is talking about and not mere phantasy.

He -not to let it unmentioned- candidated for the polish senat in much the same way as Mr Ivancic for the minister of state.

Mr Ivancic is a case for a psychiatrist not for a lawyer.

Seb.

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2007-08-21T05:26:00.000+02:00

Ronald: "health problem" usually means illness, hence "psychological problem" and "mental illness" are synonymous in the context.

Being overly anal is a poor way to demonstrate knowledge.

A better way is to wear glasses, like I do... I promise instant IQ boost.

" Why would they play along with a clearly delusio...

2007-08-20T20:58:00.000+02:00

" Why would they play along with a clearly delusional person?"

Why would people order this $150 laptop that can not possibly exist?

If a person is truly convinced himself, he can be very convincing for others, especially if they are told they can gain themselves. I have seen people spend and loose fortunes trusting the story of patients in a manic phase of their bi-polar disorder.

I cannot be certain that Mr. Ivancic is mentally disturbed rather than a crook, but it is my best guess from what I have read so far about this affair and about him.

One anonymous wrote that he does not understand "the hard line psychiatry draws between plain old crooks and crooks that cheat because of psychological problem."

First, psychiatry is about illness, not about problems.
Secondly, psychiatry does not draw that hard line. There is not always a clear distinction between almost believing ones phantasy and firmly believing ones phantasy. But some people do (permanently or temporarily) firmly believe, indeed know for sure, what is clearly not for real.

Ronald R.

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2007-08-20T19:33:00.000+02:00

I wish I had seen this press conference.. except of course its in Swedish. But even then, emotions and tones are universal.

Anonymous above makes a good point: why would people play along?

But still.. the cost of parts just doesn't add up to 150. No one is advertising with him.

Ugh! The suspense!!!!!! - Even when you know the ending to stories - good guy wins - you still can't wait to see it happen. (Or in the case the whole thing flops)

I think the "mental disorder" version is rather do...

2007-08-20T19:10:00.000+02:00

I think the "mental disorder" version is rather doubtful. This is not a one-man operation, he had others at the press-conference, etc. Why would they play along with a clearly delusional person?